>> are you going to tell me who rick barry is? >> yeah, yeah. >> joe namath of basketball. long time ago. >> that's all i need to know. tomorrow, tim pawlenty, illinois senator dick durbin and singer dionne warwick. >> great show. meanwhile, cnn "newsroom" with carol costello begins right now. tear gas in cairo near the u.s. embassy as the fight for democracy goes on. >> face to face. susan rice and john mccain, the man who wanted watergate style hearings, meet. and only cnn catches up with mccain before the big meeting. >> what do you have to learn today from miss rice? >> whatever ambassador rice wants to tell me. she's the one who asked for the meeting. i didn't. >> wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall? spyfall, real-life bond movie. yasser arafat's body was

exhumed. was the palestinian leader po h poisoned by israeli spies? plus this. >> you said walden is in trouble. >> i'm the trouble walden has been in, repeatedly. >> he calls it filth, the half in "two and a half men" begs you not to watch his show. "newsroom" starts now. good morning to you. thank you so much for being with us. i'm carol costello. we begin with a high stakes meeting just minutes from now. this hour, the u.s. ambassador to the united nations will muster all of her diplomatic skills and tiptoe through a political mine field. susan rice meets with republican senator john mccain. as you know, mccain had vehemently opposed her nomination of secretary of state. now he shows signs of softening. at issue, that deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in libya.

was rice playing politics when she said initially that terrorists were not to blame for the killing of four americans? minutes ago, we caught up to senator mccain for these exclusive comments. >> what do you have to learn today from miss rice? >> whatever ambassador rice wants to tell me. she's the one who asked for the meeting. i didn't. >> do you trust her to be secretary of state? >> this issue needs to be resolved, clearly. it needs to be resolved before -- i don't make a judgment as to whether she should be secretary of state or not until she's been nominated. >> you put more blame on the president or miss rice? >> the president is ultimately responsible. >> cnn's dan lothian first reported this morning's meeting with rice and mccain. he joins us now from the white house. dan, rice has not been nominated, not yet. how important are these meetings today? >> it's very important. republicans have been very concerned about the narrative that she put out there shortly after those benghazi attacks.

they have a lot of questions and don't feel that this white house and this administration has been very transparent in the process. they have been very critical of her. as you heard the senator pount out there, it was ambassador rice who asked for these meetings. she will be accompanied by acting cia director mike morel. what's interesting is that we've seen some of the harshest criticism has been sort of toned down as we heard there from senator john mccain. from threatening to block her nomination as possible secretary of state to a willingness to hear her out, senator john mccain seems to be dialing back his public opposition to ambassador susan rice. >> i think she deserves the ability and the opportunity to discipline herself and her position. >> another vocal critic, senator lindsey graham, is still expressing doubts about her but avoided answering whether he would stand in the way of a rice nomination. >> when she comes over, if she does, there will be a lot of

questions asked of her about this event and others. >> whether this apparent new tone is a real shift in thinking prompted by political pressure or more nuance language, the white house is all ears. >> certainly saw those comments and appreciate them as the president has said and i and others have said. ambassador rice has done an excellent job at the united nations and is highly qualified for any number of positions in the foreign policy arena. >> mi have no announcements to make on personnel. >> secretary of state hillary clinton has said she will not stay for a second term. ambassador rice came under fire for suggesting that the benghazi attack that killed four americans was a spontaneous event. >> there was a hateful video that was disseminated on the internet. that sparked violence in various parts of the world, including

violence directed against western facilities, including our embassies and consulate. >> reporter: much later the administration labeled it a terrorist attack. even though officials pointed to early language the president used, quote, acts of terror. possible nomination of rice as secretary of state. >> we will do whatever is necessary to block the nomination. >> i am dead set on making sure we don't promote anybody that was an essential player in the benghazi debacle. >> reporter: carol, what's interesting is that that sbrou you played earlier, senator mccain was asked if he was softening his stance. and he said, no, no, not that i know of. clearly when you hear the words of earlier remarks that the senator made and then you hear what he's saying now, that he doesn't really want to make any judgment at all, there's clear ly some softening of the rhetoric from senator mccain. unclear, though, what's behind it all. >> dan lothian reporting live from the white house.

from capitol hill to the corporate board room a lot of hammering over the fiscal cliff. some 35 days away now. business leaders are calling for action. listen to this plea from the group the business round table. >> america's ceos have a message for washington. >> top priority for us is to advance policies that will get the u.s. economy growing again. >> the country has to have a higher rate of growth. that begins with addressing the fiscal cliff issue. >> so, bipartisan bottom line, right? not quite. you see those business leaders have a vested interest in which spending should be cut and which loopholes closed. and let's just say what's old is new again. alison kosik is at the new york stock exchange with a closer look. put this in language we can understand as people who are not ceos.

>> many of these high-level ceos, carol, are part of this movement, this campaign to fix the debt we've been hearing so much about. this includes some of the biggest heads of business that are out there. and some have been more outspoken than others when it comes to what needs to get done to get a handle on the deficit. it also has a lot of people saying wait a minute. some of these decisions could really impact -- and not a good way -- have a huge impact on the poor and elderly. for ceo lloyd blankfein, he did an interview over the weekend with cbs and made the case that the social safety net programs need to be scaled back like medicare, medicaid and social security. he says people need to lower their expectations of those sboi entitlements. easy for him to say. he made about $12 million last year. i digress. he did con socede that eventual the way to raise revenue will be for the wealthy to pay a higher tax rate. david coney is talking about

addressing the entitlement issue but wants a corporate tax rate of zero. no doubt that would create huge outrage. he says that's the most effective way to create jobs in the u.s. and frees up so much money for companies to hire. many would probably agree that's important, too. you can see both sides of the story there, carol. one more extreme than the other, of course. >> of course. we'll see what happens. alison kosik at the new york stock exchange. good news for the housing market as home prices rise across the country with the biggest quarterly jump in two years. christine romans is in new york with more. good morning, christine. >> good morning, carol. more evidence that the housing market is healing. we've seen report after report on this. the biggest quarterly gain in two years. s&p kay schicase-shiller report.

national home prices up 3.6% in the third quarter. can i show you the cities with the biggest gains? as you know, all real estate is local. some of the bounce back is coming in areas that were really beaten down badly. look at phoenix. the one-year change in home prices up 20%. minneapolis, up 8%. detroit, up almost 8%. san francisco, up 7.5%. so this is pretty key. many cities have not gotten back, even close to peak levels. you're seeing this healing overall in home prices. when i look at home sales from other data i've been looking at, other monthly reports we get, carol, you can see a lot of these deals are cash deals. so some of this is investors. some of this is first-time home buyers. clearly it's more evidence that the housing market is healing. one of the reasons it is healing is because mortgage rates have been very low. can i show you the most recent mortgage rates?

anybody out there interested in refinancing? 30-year fixed rate. 15 year, popular refinancing tool. 2.63%. >> wow! >> yeah. those are low mortgage rates. >> i never thought i would see them that low in my lifetime. >> me either. >> christine romans, live in new york. thank you so much. happening in cairo, protesters flock to rage against the new president. tear gas was fired to disperse demonstrators. many say mohamed morsi betrayed the democratic intention of arab spring when he granted himself sweeping new powers last week. we'll keep an eye on cairo and bring you new developments as they happen. as early as today, we could hear from the u.s. soldier accused of leaking thousands of military and diplomatic secrets to wikileaks. bradley manning says military jailers mistreat ed him for nearly a year. if his attorneys can prove that, his case could be dismissed. if not, manning could face life

in prison if convicted. also this morning, forensic experts have what they need to determine if former palestinian leader yasser arafat may have been poisoned eight years ago. just hours ago, they exhumed his body, took samples from the remains and then reburied him. fred pleitgen has been following the developments from the west bank. morning, fred. >> reporter: good morning, carol. the process only lasted a few hours. early in the morning hours, the grave, the tomb of yasser arafat was opened, all of this closed off to the public. awe all we saw was a big blue tarpaulin. russia, switzerland and france, experts opened the grave. they didn't actually have to remove the body but removed samples from the body and closed the grave again. all we saw out here was a ceremony, very solemn one, where palestinian leaders laid flowers to commemorate the late

palestinian leader yasser arafat. what they're looking for, as you said quite rightly, is a poison. pl plunonium 2010. the palestinians, of course, have long accused israel of poisoning yasser arafat. israelis not willing to comment on that. palestinians say they hope this investigation will get them some clarity. carol? >> fred pleitgen, reporting live from the west bank this morning. chris christie says he's finally able to look beyond the devastation unleashed on his state by superstorm sandy and says the long recovery home has convinced him to run for re-election next year. storm victims have been asking about his plans. >> this weekend, mary pat and i, the kids, had an opportunity to just kind of have a few minutes to ourselves. and we talked about it. and we've decided we're going to seek re-election. and we're wanting to get that

going today. so i instructed my campaign treasurer to file papers with the election law enforcement commission to seek re-election. and so -- >> there you have it. christie has been extremely hands on in dealing with the storm damage. that has helped fuel a huge spike in his approval ratings which now hover around 80%. in dewitt county, illinois, reluctantly agreed to a coin flip 14 days after their election ended in a tie. incumbent ferguson called tails. decisive coin flip was more like gambling than democracy, he says. crane on fire starts to collapse with hundreds of people standing below in australia. now we're learning about a connection between that crane and another crane that buckled in new york after superstorm sandy.

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the new president of mexico will visit the white house days before he takes office. enrique pena nieto will meet with president obama later today. wolf blitzer will sit down with the president-elect nieto and you will hear that interview later today on cnn. now, one of the topics the two leaders will likely discuss is immigration. it's a hot button issue between the united states and mechanixi. immigration laws in the united states have gotten tougher. yes, tougher. so tough, many families are returning to mexico from the united states. >> a 10-year-old boy is struggling with his homework. oscar is getting extra help from his father because he's having trouble adjusting to his new school.

>> when you left you were in, what, fourth grade? >> third grade. >> the fifth grader is technically a foreigner in his homeland. he was born in arizona. >> i pledge allegiance -- >> has approximatet been difficult for you to be here in mexico? >> kind of. >> why? >> because i have to speak another language. >> oscar's 6-year-old sister, angie, also is an american citizen. she says she misses american stores, bigger houses and parks. their parents, oscar and maria castillanes lived in arizona for years as undocumented immigrants. >> translator: we would feel percent could you telled and harassed. we felt bad. it was nerve-racking especially when we had to go out to go to

work. >> translator: it was difficult because we had everything there. we had to leave everything behind and return to mexico. it was difficult. >> reporter: castellanos said they endured years of fear living in the u.s. after the strict immigration law passed in 2010, they moved back to mexico. according to the poou his ppoug hispanic center, net migration fell from 2005 to 2010. that means the number of immigrants coming into the country is -- some say they left the u.s. unwillingly. they were deported. abcs in english. >> a, b, c, d, e, f, g. >> she has yet to learn them in spanish.

>> raphael romo joins us now. how common are stories like this? >> they are very common. states not only like arizona but georgia and alabama, which have passed immigration laws. there are a number of immigrants who have decided to move to other states within the united states, but there are many families like the castellanos family who decided for the mental sanity of myself and my children i just have to move back to mexico. >> it does make you wonder what the new mexican president will say to president obama about this issue. >> what the new mexican president is probably here to say is that both countries need to look at the issue of immigration as a shared responsibility. mexico sends a lot of people to the united states every year. the reality is that the united states also benefits from the labor that those mexicans provide. so it is a shared problem. and the argument on both sides of the border has been it should also be a shared responsibility.

>> raphael romo, thank you for being with us. we appreciate it. shocker from asia. china is claiming territory that -- well, isn't exactly theirs. zain verjee is tracking the story. good morning, zain. >> good morning, carol. something strange is on page eight of the new chinese passport and it is making people in the region really mad. i'll tell you what it is after the break. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- you can stay in and share something... or you can get out there and actually share something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on. this is the pursuit of perfection. [ gordon ] for some this line is a convenience. how you doing today? i'm good thanks. how are you? i'm good. [ gordon ] but for others, it's all they can afford. every day nearly nine million older americans don't have enough to eat. anything else? no, not today.

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china is ticking off its neighbors with a new passport it's giving to its citizens. it basically shows china claiming territory it doesn't actually own. confused? zain verjee is here to sort it all out for us. good morning, zain. >> good morning. well, what's in a map, carol? this is what it is. china basically is having disputes with a bunch of countries around asia and specifically in some places in the sea known as the south china sea. what they've did decided to do is on page eight of the new passport, stamp a water mark map

where you stick visas on and things like that and basically claim all the disputed territories in the entire region as its own and that's that. and it's making a lot of people in the region really mad because these are serious historical and political issues. china doesn't care because it's on page eight. >> so, any retaliation from those countries who are ticked off at china? >> yeah. yes, actually. they're pretty mad and making threats of their own. it's causing an international and diplomatic dispute in the whole region. taiwan is saying, look, we're not part of china. they have said this map shows the ignorance of reality on china's part. vietnam has said they're not even going to stamp the path passport. they'll issue these separate pages and then issue different stamps and india is saying they're going to put their own stamp of their own territory over the chinese passport. they're all going to have a big meeting and try to figure this out. it's not clear if china is even invited or what passport they'll

choose to use. >> very strange. zain verjee, reporting live for us this morning. thank you. now is your chance to talk back on one of the big stories of the day. should susan rice be considered for secretary of state? susan rice, john mccain, face to face. maybe the tryptophan and the turkey chilled everyone out. >> what do you have to learn today from miss rice? >> whatever ambassador rice wants to tell me. she's the one that asked for the meeting. i didn't. >> don't think so. the embattled u.n. ambassador is sitting down with the senator who accused her of being incompetent and deceptive and called for watergate style hearings on libya. >> she gave deceptive information to the american people when there was clearly counter information that affirmed that this was a terrorist attack orchestrated by an al qaeda affiliated organization. >> by now you know the story. rice intimated a cheesy

anti-islam film caused the murderous rampage at the consulate in benghazi, libya. not true. her assertion on several sunday talk shows was okayed by the intelligence community and caused one great big partisan brawl. soon, democrats piled on, accusing republicans of racism. >> susan rice's comments didn't send us to iraq and afghanistan. somebody else's did. but you're not angry with them. i would just say in closing that it is a shame that any time something goes wrong, they pick on women and minorities. i have a real issue with that. >> yet when asked about mccain, rice was conciliatory. >> i have great respect for senator mccain and his service to our country. i always have. and i always will. i do think that some of the statements he made about me have been unfounded. but i look forward to having the

opportunity at the appropriate time to discuss all of this with him. >> so, after mccain saying he would do whatever it takes to block rice's nomination, he now appears to be softening and says rice deserves the chance to explain her actions. talk back for you today, though. should susan rice be considered for secretary of state in light of all of this? facebook.com/carolcnn. facebook.com/carolcnn. your comments later this hour. nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus liquid gels speeds relief to your worst cold symptoms plus has a decongestant for your stuffy nose. thanks. that's the cold truth!

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good morning to you. i'm carol costello. thank you very much for being with us. it's 30 minutes past the hour. u.s. ambassador to the united nations susan rice is on capitol hill right now for a meeting with three of her biggest critics. she has been mentioned as the possible successor to hillary clinton as secretary of state but first rice has to address

her initial handling of the benghazi attacks that, as you know, killed four americans. so, what is she likely to say to senator s lindsey graham, john mccain? maria cardona and republican strategist ana navaro. do we have dana's microphone problem worked out? >> i'm here, carol. >> okay, good. you heard what he had to say. what do you think? >> reporter: i think this is going to be a real test of susan rice's diplomatic skills, that's what i think. these are three republican senators who, of course, have been among her harshest critics. i can tell you -- i'll play a sound bite. john mccain has definitely softened his rhetoric when it comes to susan rice but he has not when it comes to the administration and benghazi in

general. listen to what he said this morning. >> do you think there's still unanswered questions? >> about 50 unanswered questions. including why the president would continue to say two weeks later that there was a hateful video that sparked a spontaneous demonstration, why the fbi investigators questioned people who were survivors who told them there was no demonstration and that was not -- we learned by ambassador rice and not learned by the president. >> do you put more blame on the president or miss rice? >> the president is ultimately responsible. >> reporter: so that was all about the president. that's what john mccain is emphasizing right now. here is what we understand they're really going to press susan rice on behind closed doors, carol. that is we know after -- the big issue has been after the attack in september, on the sunday shows susan rice did not mention the fact that there was a possibility that an al qaeda

affiliate was behind the attack. in the past two weeks, we were told by the intelligence community the reason is because they wanted that to remain classified. they didn't want it to be out there because they didn't want to compromise sources and methods. what's going to happen behind closed doors this morning and starting as we speak is the acting cia director is going with susan rice to talk about why she didn't mention it. because what really gets these republicans going is not only that she didn't mention it, but that she went beyond that and said during the course of these interviews that the obama administration has decimated al qaeda. the point these republican senators have been making is that that was a political statement because that served the white house well, to say that kind of thing before the election, because this was a big part of the president's campaign. >> interesting. >> that he got rid of bin laden. did she know the classified

information? if so, why did she say that publicly about al qaeda when she may not have been able to talk about al qaeda with regard to this attack but might have known about it. >> so mccain said rice asked for this meeting. in light of what dana just said, how can rice win him over? >> look, i don't think it's about rice winning him over. i don't think this is about susan rice as much as it is about the unanswered questions of benghazi. we must understand something. there's very little leverage that senators in the minority have. one of the few things they can do is really make nominations and confirmations difficult. it's part of our system of checks and balances. i've seen it happen with democrats and republicans in the past. there are unanswered questions. i think john mccain, lindsay gram, kelly ayotte understand it was not susan rice's responsibility but she was the one -- even though she had nothing to do with it, the

administration sent her out to paragraphrot talking points that were inaccurate. there were breaches of security, pleas for help that went unanswered, breaches of protocol and four dead americans that were representing all of us. what john mccain and lindsey graham wants are answers. today is a good path, good step toward getting some answers and a step in the right direction. >> so, maria cardona, our democratic strategist, we just had an election. people want democrats and republicans to get along. susan rice clearly is embattled, the source of controversy. should president obama still nominate her as his secretary of state? >> i think he should, if that's what he believes is the best thing for the country. look, she has been an outstanding public servant both at the u.n. and serving under the clinton administration in a national security role. there's no question about that. and i think what -- i actually applaud susan rice for going to these meetings. she asked for them when senator

mccain actually gave her the opening, as he softened his criticism of her. and so i think what these meetings will do and what they should do -- and i agree with ana on this. there are a lot of unanswered questions. this will give ambassador rice the opportunity to walk through what she was asked to do, what she was given in terms of talking points and what i think is critical here is that there's no question that these senators now understand that their first polit politicicization of this has hurt -- has possible reperfect cushi -- repercussions for the gop sbchlt that's woi your seeing them walk back the criticism and point it at president obama. which president obama invited. if you understand the way that security -- that security levels work, john mccain knows that you do not go beyond what you are

told you can say or not say. and so by attacking her, he understands that that is actual politics. this will go beyond the politics to get to the real answers hopefully. >> we'll see. dana bash, you'll be standing by. maybe the meeting will end soon but i doubt it. maria cardona, ana navaro, and dana bash, thank you. appreciate it. an actor from "two and a half men" is calling his own show filth and asking you not to watch. find out more next. cute. but don't you have any apps on your phone that can make your life easier? who do you think i am, quicken loans? at quicken loans, we'll provide you with myql mobile. this amazingly useful app allows you to take pictures of your mortgage documents using an iphone or android smart phone... so you can easily send them to us. one more way quicken loans is engineered to amaze. ooh, la-la!

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the hit comedy "two and a half men" can't seem to stay out of the headlines. first the public meltdown of the former star, charlie sheen. now the young actor who plays jake harper, he wants off the show. he calls it filth. >> this is nice, like old times.

>> how so? >> you and me sitting here, watching tv while the good looking owner of the house is out on the deck, swapping spit with a hot chick. >> that's what the actor, an guchlt s jones is talking about, saying that this type of acting, this type of dialogue offends his christian values. michelle turner is in los angeles. this sounds so kirk cameron to me. >> you know, just when you think nothing in hollywood can shock you anymore, something shocks me again. we have yet another controversy for "two and a half men." although, as you said in this case, the half of the show is angus t. jones, kind of doing the opposite of what we've seen charlie sheen doing. he is getting attention for complaining about the behavior that got charlie sheen in trouble in the first place. he is one of the highest paid child actors on television, makes $500,000 an episode. he is telling people not to watch the show. like you said, he calls it

filth. he appeared to talk about his faith and denounce the show that made him rich and famous. watch this. >> jake on "two and a half men" means nothing. he is a nonexistent character. if you watch "two and a half men" please stop watching "two and a half men." i'm on "two and a half men." i don't want to be on it. please stop watching it. please stop filling your head with filth. please. people say it's just entertainment. the fact that it's entertainment, do some research on the effects of television and your brain and i promise you, you will have a decision to make when it comes to television and especially with what you watch on television. >> you know, jones says in the video that he doesn't want to contribute to, quote, the enemy's plan by being on this show and he doesn't think he can be a christian and be on a show

like "two and a half men." of course, carol, we reached out to the people behind "two and a half men" and see if they could give us a hint on what the show was going to do. they didn't have any comment on all of this. his character, if this gives you a hint, is in the army now. if some fallout does happen, there is an out there. maybe jake harper -- >> could get shipped off to afghanistan or something. >> yeah, something. >> dowhy does he remain on the show? >> that's a good question. in 2010 he signed a guaranteed contract for 26 episodes which in part means two seasons because there's 13 episodes a season. $7.9 million he is getting guaranteed. he also got a $500,000 signing bonus during this deal. so, you know, maybe he's trying to fulfill his contract or he may have just koind of found his faith and is pretty conflicted. we talked about this on "starting point" and "early

start" this morning. sometimes when you find a new faith you're conflicted about what you're doing. he could just be at that point where he's not sure if he should be doing this type of acting anymore. >> how old is he? i didn't catch that. is he 15 maybe? >> he is a teenager. i'm not exactly sure, to be honest with you, how old he is. i think he might be around 17, 18 years old. he is getting up there. i think he is about to go to college so around 18-year-old and just becoming an adult. >> he is 19 years old, a producer just said in my ear. i didn't know either. >> okay. thank you, producer, for making that clear for us. >> thank you, producer pam. we appreciate it. michelle turner, thanks so much. we appreciate it. >> absolutely. recognize this face? the daughter of the model who helped put guess jeans on the map. we'll tell you who she is. plus -- >> let me think. okay. here you go. >> set my timer for 30 minutes. >> how would you like to hear from siri while you're driving

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48 minutes past the hour. time to check our top stories. more fallout at long island power authority. heavily criticized by consumers for its response to superstorm sandy. vice president of customer service will step down at the end of the year. and a board member has quit. these moves comes weeks after lipa's chief operating officer

announced he was leaving. in the heart of sydney, australia, the arm of a construction crane falls on to a building, barely missing a busy street. the collapse happened after fire engulfed the cab of the crane. two weeks ago the construction site was shut down when workers walked off the job because of a gas leak. the crane is operated by lend lease, same company whose crane buckled in new york city during superstorm sandy. automakers are moving to incorporate smart phone links into new models. chevrolet spark and sonic will have siri on its infotainment systems. ford also plans smart phone access in its 2014 version of the fiesta. small businesses will be affected whether or not we reach the fiscal cliff. the president has invited more than a dozen executives of small businesses to the white house. cnn political director mark

preston is in washington to tell us more. good morning, mark. >> good morning, carol. you're absolutely right. the president today will be meeting with small business owners here in washington, d.c., the beginning of what seems to be becoming a public relations offensive by the white house as he tries to build support for h ideas that he wants incorporated into the negotiations on the fiscal cliff. he will be having discussions today, but we should be careful. they won't necessarily be listening sessions as they will be rah-rah sessions to try get support for president obama's proposal to have the tax cuts extended for folks who are making less than $250,000 a year. but for them to be sun setted for those making over $250,000 a year. >> the president had a similar meeting with heads of large companies. will he hear anything different, or will it be, as you said, a rah-rah "in session." >> i think it will be a rah-rah meeting. he will hold a meeting with other business leaders tomorrow

as well as holding a separate meeting with folks who are middle class income who will be hurt by the fiscal cliff if in fact it is not resolved here in washington, d.c. but on friday, he's going to leave washington, d.c. he's going to go pennsylvania. when he's in pennsylvania he's going to visit a manufacturer that builds toys, specifically they build the tinkertoys as well as the connects building sets. he's i to get support from all corn -- he's trying to get support from all corners of the middle class to support him as they move forward on the livefi cliff. >> thanks. no suspension for a kick in the groin, but the lions' defensive tackle may not get off scot-free. [ male announcer ] a european-inspired suspension, but it's not from germany. ♪ a powerful, fuel-efficient engine, but it's not from japan. ♪

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"talk back" question -- should susan rice be considered for secretary of state? from debbie -- no, it would be a

stupid distraction. while we have so many other issues facing our country. fiscal cliff, anyone? oh, that's right, that's how politics works. from jason -- senator mccain served honorably in vietnam, surviving what many could not. i believe he is exhausting the credibility he has with the american people through his nasty, unfounded remarks on ambassador rice. this from rick -- i have a better question -- what makes her unqualified? from michael -- if she simply repeated talking points provided to her, she should not be faulted. on the other hand, if she deliberately stated known facts, she should be disqualified for higher office. keep the conversation going, facebook.com/carolcnn. thanks as always for your comment. we'll be right back. the distances aren't getting shorter. ♪ the trucks are going farther. the new 2013 ram 1500. ♪ with the best-in-class fuel economy.

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michael vick's jury. cam newton had the best game of the season throwing for two touchdowns, running for two more. no turnovers. the eex could not -- eagles could not hold on to the ball and lost 30-22. they haven't won sent september. the owner has been "supportive." detroit lions's at defensive tackle ndamukong suh will not be suspended for kicking a player in the groin. there will be a possible fine for the thanksgiving day game kick. on monday suh said the text angelsed nev e-- the texans wour have someone like it on their team. the nets hosting the knicks for the first time. jay-z and beyonce in the house. the game was rescheduled after superstorm sandy hit. there they are. more nets than knicks fans showed up. the new kids on the block won this battle in new york in

overtime, 96-89. the teams are tied atop the atlantic division. that's sports this morning. the next hour of cnn "newsroom" starts right now. happening in the newsroom, u.s. soldier bradley manning charged with document dumping on wikileaks is now accusing the united states military of torture, and it could be his get out of jail free card. walking out on walmart. a congressman-election joins the protest. he joins us to explain why he wants to put the union in walmart. she has cancer and uses medical marijuana to cope. she's also 7 years old. her parents say it's the only thing that works. dr. sanjay gupta with his expert opinion. and your cell phone privacy put to the test. courtrooms around the nation are torn k. police use yourle th ce phone activity like your gps and text as evidence? "newsroom" starts now.

good morning, i'm carol costello. thank you very much for joining me. topping the news this hour, a question -- is bradley manning a heroic whistleblower or traitor? more to the point, was manning, a u.s. soldier, a victim of torture at virginia's quantico marine base? as early as today, manning will testify about that at ft. meade. as you know, he's accused of leaking hundreds of thousands of war logs and diplomatic cables to wikileaks. he'll likely detail how he was treated while confined at quantico. manning claims that for nine months he was held in his cell for 23 hours a day, checked every five minutes, and often stripped naked. if this is proved to be true, manning could go free. joining me to explain that you will is a military lawyer, welcome, greg. >> good morning. >> if are you representing manning, and you're not, but if you were, why start with an accusation of torture at the

hands of his u.s. captors? >> well, it could likely be a get out of jail free card under article 13 of the ucmj. if torch's alleged and proven -- torture's alleged and proven, the military judge does have the capability to dismiss all the charges. i don't think it's likely in this case, but it is a possibility. >> why do you think -- why do you think it's not likely? because manning, you know, he says he's been -- he was confined to solitary confinement for 23 hours. psychiatrists and psychologists will testify at the hearing that there was no evidence that manning would commit suicide. so why keep him in solitary confinement? isn't that enough? >> well, i think there's a debate as to whether or not it was necessary to keep him in solitary confinement 23 hours a day. in my opinion, i believe he will get some article 13 credit p pretrial confinement credit, which means it will come off his sentence. i don't believe the military judge will outright dismiss the charges.

i don't believe his treatment rises to the level of torture. >> is that normal for -- is that normal at quantico, to keefe someone in solitary confinement for 23 hours a day? what's normal in this case? >> no. it is not normal to keep a soldier who's charged in pretrial confinement for 23 hours a day. however, the charges in this case were very serious. espionage. i think they also did have some feeling that he may have been suicidal. so they were concerned about his safety. however, i think keeping him in confinement, solitary confinement for 23 hours a day i think is going to give the military judge some pause. and i think the military judge will give him some article 13 illegal pretrial confinement credit off of his sentence eventually when he is sentenced. >> manning has been held for years now. i mean, for a time, a long time, he was held without charges being filed. is that normal in a case like it, and will that enter into the

hearing at ft. meade today? >> it could enter into the hearing today. the fact that he was held for such a long period of time. however, these charges were severe. there was also some defense delay in this case, as well, which is not attributable to the government. so both sides are going to argue whether or not the delay was -- was a very long delay, was a delay that he should get credit for. there's no doubt in my opinion that he will get some pretrial credit. i don't believe that he's going to be let go free and the charges dismissed. >> greg rinckey, thank you very much. >> my pleasure. also happening this hour, the southern poverty law center holding a conference in new york to discuss a lawsuit against a conversion therapy provider. conversion therapy as you may know is a controversial practice that tries to change a person's sexual orientation from gay to straight. coming up later is hour, we'll talk with the splc's attorney about the first of a kind lawsuit. also, we're keeping a close

eye on things in cairo, egypt. protesters have blocking to tahrir square to rage against egypt's president. earlier this morning, police fired teargas to disperse demonstrator. many egyptians say muhammad morse betrayed the democratic action of the arab spring when he granted himself new powers last week. we'll bring you developments as they happen. forensic experts from three countries have what they need to determine what killed the former palestinian leader, yasser arafat. hours ago, they exhumed arafat's body, took samples from his remains, and then reburied them. it's suspected arafat died of pulonium poisoning in 2004. in other words, high levels of the radioactive elements were found on his clothing and toothbrush. the palestinian authority speculates that israel may be to blame. israeli officials have not commented on this. time is running out, and

lawmakers are now back at work. house members are returning to capitol hill today. their senate counterparts returned monday. the number-one issue, of course, resolving the live in. there are also some other big meetings happening this morning on capitol hill. susan rice, the u.s. ambassador to the united nations, is sitting down with some of her more outspoken critics about comments she made over the attack in benghazi. congress has been demanding answers since ambassador chris stevens and three other americans were killed in libya on september 11. and there's no bigger critic of rice than senator john mccain. >> that was an act of terror. for 19 disagree with that fundamental fact i think is ignoring the facts. she continued to tell the world through all the talk shows that that -- that it was a "spontaneous demonstration sparked by a video." that's not competence in my view.

>> rice is meeting now with senator john mccain of arizona and then will sit down with lindsay graham of south carolina and senator kelly ayotte from new hampshire. and we have more now from thrill. dana, tell us more. >> reporter: the meeting we believe is underway now. i say we believe because we have seen the senators go into the area where the meeting will take place. it is happening at a classified room at the capitol. we didn't see rice go in, but we believe she was taken in in a hidden way, much like david petraeus was a couple of weeks ago. what do they want to talk about? obviously you heard john mccain's complaints before them loudly about the fact that they believe she was political in her comments after that 9/11 attack this year in benghazi and didn't give the appropriate information to the american people about what really went on which we now understand from intelligence officials was that it was an al

qaeda-affiliated attack. since those comments, john mccain has softened his rhetoric. listen to what he told cnn exclusively this morning. >> do you trust her to be secretary of state? >> this issue need to be resolved. clearly, it needs to be resolved before -- i don't make a judgment as to whether she should be secretary of state or not until she's been nominated. >> do you put more blame on the president or ms. rice? >> the president is ultimately responsible. >> reporter: obviously, susan rice has not been nominated for secretary of state. but the fact that she requested this meeting, wanted to try to clear the air and explain herself to these senators, these three intense critics certainly is telling. now what is the crux of the issue? carol, we understand that what the republican senators are most annoyed about is not just that she didn't talk about al qaeda, which we now know from officials

it's because she couldn't, it was classified, but that she went on to say that the obama administration has decimated al qaeda. so what they're going to ask in this meeting is whether she knew in a classified way that al qaeda or an al qaeda affiliate was behind this. if so, that's -- that's their accusation, that she was misleading the public. >> all right. dana bash, reporting live from capitol hill this morning. good news for the u.s. housing market. a report released just about an hour ago shows that home prices are up about 3.6% from a year ago. that is the biggest quarterly percentage gain in two years. the rebound spurred by a combination of record low mortgage rates and improving job market and a drop in foreclosures to a five-year low. and also just into the newsroom, more signs of recovery. consumer confidence, it hit a four-year high. alison kosik joins us from the new york stock exchange.

wow, i'm feeling pretty good this morning. >> reporter: you and a lot of other americans surveyed in this report. yeah. looks like the consumer is in a better place than they were, say, a few years ago. as you said, consumer confidence reaching a four-year high in november. this rise better than expected. americans said that they're feeling more optimistic about the jobs market now and in the future. so this is really good news, especially ahead of the holiday shopping season since confidence often correlates closely with how much people are going to get out and spend. we know that people have already been hitting the stores and buying on line in force. it's good for the economy when people are feeling optimistic and they're out there spending money. as for the market, not seeing it move too much. it looks like investors have bigger fish to fry. known as the fiscal cliff. the dow is down about 11 points. there's still a lot of worry about how these talks on coming up with a deal on the fiscal cliff, how the talks will go. carol? >> alison kosik live from the new york stock exchange. representative-elect alan

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13 minutes past the hour. president obama will meet with mexico's president-election today. pina-nieto who will be sworn in in four days has a message saying u.s./mexico relations need to go beyond drugs and security concerns. on his list, deeping ties with the u.s. jill kelley will lose her title as honorary consul according to the deputy foreign minister of south korea. it comes after a new york businessman accused kelley of trying to use her honorary position to solicit positibusin. that position carried no official responsibility. another long island power authority executive is resigning. the utility has come under severe criticism for its handling of restoring power after superstorm sandy. the vice president of media relations and a member of the

board of trustees are leaving their post. big retailers like walmart are rushing to clarify their links to a garment factory in bangladesh that caught fire over the weekend. more than 100 people were killed. more than 200 others injured. thousands of protesters in bangladesh have taken to the streets demanding a full investigation into what happened. the government has now ordered such an investigation. as for walmart, it issued this statement to cnn, "our thoughts are with the families of the victims of this tragedy. the factory was no longer authorized to produce merchandise for walmart. a supplier subcontracted work to this factory without authorization, and in direct violation of our policies. today we have terminated the relationship with that supplier. the fact that this occurred is extremely troubling to us, and we will continue to work across the apparel industry to improve fire safety education and triple crowning in bangladesh."

back here in the united states, a protest against walmart goes on. and you can count representative-elect alan grayson with standing with the company's workers. he joins us now live. welcome. >> thank you. >> you attended a walkout at a walmart in orlando on black friday. and you showed your solidarity the night before by delivering bagged meals to walmart employees who had to work on thanksgiving. that caused walmart to call the cops. so tell us what happened. >> we went to walmart to hand out thanksgiving dinners to them because they had to work on their thanksgiving, couldn't be with their families. we brought a bag, the bag had three things -- a turkey sandwich because it was thanksgiving, a bag of chips, and a letter explaining what their rights are to organize. >> then so -- cops were called? what did the cops do when they arrived? tell us about that. >> it was the security staff. walmart always has security staff around. once they saw that we were handing out the bags, they objected, asked us to leave, and we left. the security staff simmply

escorted us as they often do. the important thing is we showed workers what their rights are. walmart tries to keep them in the dark. and we showed that they're not alone. that people care. that we want the working poor to have a better life in america. >> you posted a letter on your facebook page and wrote, "walmart accounts for more than 10% of all the retail sales in the united states. it's the largest private employer in the world with more than two million employees. even though the employees comprise barrelly -- barely 10% of doing its business, walmart exploits them mercilessly. now walmart employees are starting to organize, starting to fight back." someone i know said you don't like working at walmart, get another job. >> all the people who have those jobs suffer from the fact that we have 8% unemployment. we all suffer from the fact that walmart underpays its employees. the average associate at walmart makes barely $1,200 a month. that's $1,2 hundred. could you live on $1,200 a

month? i couldn't. the fact is they don't because taxpayers subsidize them. because walmart underpays them, taxpayers pay for their medicaid. because walmart underpays them, the taxpayers end up paying for their food stamps. in fact, each walmart associate costs the taxpayers over $1,000. it's time to end that. walmart needs to pay for its own employees and give them a living wage. the minimum wage needs to be higher. and walmart and other employees need to pick up the tab on insurance and coverage for their employees and stop handing that tab off to the taxpayers. >> when many of the protests happened on black friday, we noticed that not a lot of workers comprised the big crowds. it was mostly union people, community leaders, and a few walmart workers. and some might say that really the unions are behind this. the employees aren't behind this so much. >> in fact, at one walmart not too long ago, 200 walmart employees walked out and shut down the store. but the walmart employees in general are afraid. they're being intimidated.

they're being told in many cases if you even talk about union you'll be fired. in orlando, here in orlando, one of the lawyers -- one of the employees who talked about a union was fired. he came back a few days later just to talk to his former employees, his former staff, his former colleagues, and they let him off the premises in hand -- they led him off the premises in handcuffs in a way that everyone else could see. employees are being intimidated. they want to help. they want to join. they want to make their lives better. but walmart is doing everything it can to prevent that. >> frankly, it seems like walmart's winning. it had one of its biggest black fridays ever. it didn't stop people from shopping, these protests. >> the protests aren't meant to stop people from shopping. the protests are meant to inform workers of their rights to organize under the law and under the constitution and to make sure that they understand that they're not alone, and they will be protected if they exercise their rights. it's not meant to raise prices, not meant to interfere with shopping. it's meant to organize people who desperately need to be organized to make a better life for themselves. >> representative-elect alan

grayson, thank you very much for being with us this morning. >> thank you, too. this morning we're hearing from the wife of a man who died in a walmart parking lot this weekend. the man who was suspected of shoplifting dvd players was confronted by employees and security in the parking lot. the man's wife spoke to cnn affiliate wsb. she says she wants answers. >> it took three people to hold him down and choke hold him. how can you do that? you know, one person with no weapon, all for two dvd players? >> a police investigation is underway to determine exactly what caused the man's death. "talk back" question for -- should susan rice be considered for secretary of state? facebook.com/carolcnn. it never. can your moisturizer do that? [ female announcer ] dermatologist recommended aveeno has an oat formula, now proven to build a moisture reserve, so skin can replenish itself. that's healthy skin for life. only from aveeno.

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now's your chance to talk back on one of the big stories of the day. should susan rice be considered for secretary of state? susan rice, john mccain, face to face. maybe the tryptophan of the turkey chilled everyone out. >> what do you hope to learn today from ms. rice?

>> whatever ambassador rice wants to tell me. she's the one that asked for the meeting, i didn't. >> maybe not. whatever. the embattled u.n. ambassador is sitting down with the senator who accused her of being incompetent and deceptive and called for watergate-style hearings on libya. >> she gave deceptive information to the american people when there was clearly counterinformation that affirmed that this was a terrorist attack orchestrated by an al qaeda-affiliated organization. >> by now you know the story. rice intimated a cheesy anti-islam film caused the murderous rampage at the consulate in benghazi, libya. not true, but her assertion on several sunday shows was ok'd by the intelligence community and caused one great big partisan brawl. soon democrats piled on, accusing republicans of racism. >> susan rice's comments didn't send us to iraq and afghanistan.

somebody else's did. but you're not angry with them. i would just say in closing that it is a shame that any time something goes wrong they pick on women and minorities. i have a real issue with that. >> when ask good mccain, rice was conciliatory -- asked about mccain, rice was conciliatory. >> i have great respect for senator mccain and his service to our country. i always have, and i always will. i do think that some of the statements he made about me have been unfounded, but i look forward to having the opportunity at the appropriate time to discuss all of this with him. >> that's today. after saying mccain would do whatever it takes to block rice's nomination, he now appears to be softening. he says rice deserves the chance to explain her actions. so in light of all of this, the "talk back" question -- should susan rice be considered for secretary of state? facebook.com/carolcnn.

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as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. coming up on 30 minutes past the hour. good morning you to, i'm care costello. thank you for joining us. in cairo, protesters are flocking to tahrir square to rage against egypt's president. many egyptians say mohamed morsi betrayed the democratic intention of arab spring when he granted himself sweeping new powers last week. it appears superstorm sandy could cause more than -- could cost more than hurricane katrina. andrew cuomo says the superstorm will cost $42 billion. new york like other states appealing for federal aid.

110 people died in the region during the storm. nearly 1,800 lost their lives in hurricane katrina. in the heart of sydney, australia, the arm of a construction crane falls on to a building, barely missing busy broadway street. the collapse happened after a fire involved the cab of the crane. just two weeks ago the construction site was shut down when workers walked off the job because of a gas leak. technology and the law colliding, especially when it comes to cell phone use. it's a bad between your right to privacy and a lawful search of your cell phone. in rhode island, for example, a judge threw out cell phone evidence two months ago in the case of a man charged with killing a 6-year-old boy. in louisiana, a federal appeals court is reviewing how to handle location records stored on cell phones. on thursday, a senate committee will consider making changes to a 1986 law on electronic privacy. changes that could include a new amendment requiring a warrant to

search your emails regardless of how old they are. joining me is perry aftab, one of the first lawyers in the world to practice internet law. i admire you because this is complicated, isn't it? >> it's very complicated, carol. good to see you again. >> great to see you. let's talk about this rhode island case. it's before the state's supreme court now. is it likely that the justices will overturn that lower court ruling? >> it's unclear right now. and the courts are all over the place. what we need to recognize is there is no guaranteed decision anywhere. and we have to now star looking at how we can protect ourselves and how we can arm law enforcement with the tools they need to protect us. >> right now if a police officer came into my home and i was suspected of committing some crime, he could just confiscate my cell phone, look at my cell phone and take any information he wanted out of that phone and use it against me. >> well, he could take your cell

phone. it depends on where you're located as to what information can be used and how far it can go. you've got to remember that if it's -- other than the 180 days on the third-party storage which in the case of verizon or someone else that they're keeping that t that long, would allow law enforcement to get the information merely on a letter saying it's relative to an investigation. they have to have clear grounds to be able to use that cell phone to find out what you're doing. >> so how do i protect myself? because in my cell -- we have iphones now, all sorts of information. not just who called and who you received calls from. >> it's what you do and who you talk to, what you're buying, pictures that you've taken, the people have sent you to. and gps and through all of the apps, how much you've eaten, when you ate, when you took your medications, it's everything. i think that's why the senate is looking at this. this law is almost 30 years old. worked very well. the electronic communications privacy act is in effect our

federal wiretapping law. what it said is electronic communications require subpoenas and warrants and court orders to get unless they're 180 days old and stored someplace else. no one in 1986 ever had the dream of what could happen to cell phones 30 years later. >> you got that right. will it be difficult for those lawmakers who want to put more privacy rules into place because the government uses cell phone records, you know, in cases against terrorists, to track down terrorists. >> and we have those protections now. and you can subpoena verizon, you can subpoena at&t wireless. you can subpoena facebook and get this information. but it requires a subpoena. now what we're doing is looking at what doesn't require a subpoena. what can you do without a court order or warrant. can law enforcement just pick it up and look at it, see what it says, and act on that. and that's really the issue here. i suspect that the senate will be looking at other ways of

dealing with. this maybe requiring subpoenas for records that are more than 180 days old. and you'll see a lot of the cell phone providers don't keep the records that long. maybe this is one of the reasons. >> maybe so. parry aftab, privacy and security lawyer joining us this morning. thank you very much. she's one of the new faces in the latest ad for guess jeans. guess who her mom is. we'll talk more about this and n showbiz. ter job can be frustrating. so at university of phoenix we're working with a growing list of almost two thousand corporate partners - companies like microsoft, american red cross and adobe - to create options for you. not only that, we're using what we learn from these partners to shape our curriculum. so that when you find the job you want you'll be a perfect fit. let's get to work. thank you, mr. speaker, uh, members of congress.

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like mother, like daughter apparently. the late anna nicole smith who used the guess jeans ad campaign to help launch her career didn't live to see her 6-year-old daughter step into her shoes. and yes, become a guess kids model. michelle turner joins us from los angeles. and i have such mixed feelings about this, michelle. >> yeah. yeah. no, i feel you on that.

i definitely do. we all remember those guess jean ads for anna nicole smith. and it's like, well, guess who's in them now, her daughter, dani lynn. she is all of 6 years old, carol. yeah, these photos have people talking. we've been talking about it all day. not everyone is a fan either. guess says that it's a first for them, having a legacy model for them. it's been good traction and marketing because we have been talking about it. now the ads look very innocent and very charming. so this little girl actually may have a future in front of the camera. but as charming as this story could be, there's a lot of people who remember how her mother could not keep it together in the public eye. there is concern about what will happen to this little girl who, by the way, looks just like her mother. now her father, larry, is saying this was simply an hodgea ag-- homage to her mother and not a career move. for now, larry says he plans to let her be a kid. he saw an article in the new york "daily news" with her dad

says that dannielynn wants to be -- dani lynn wants to be a doctor, lawyer, or owner of an ice cream truck. that's good news. i don't know if the modeling profession has been decided yet. she's just being a little girl at this point, and that's good to head. it is scary when you look at her and she looks just like anna nicole smith. >> she really does. it's eerie. you're right. i don't know -- that second picture bugs me. what 6-year-old girl leans on a pole -- a branch? i don't know. just -- that one doesn't bother me. but the second one does. let's see the second one. >> yeah. you know -- >> there it is. >> that one's -- that's the one you're talking about there. yeah. there we go. that's the one you're talking about. that is a little more adult than all the rest because the rest of them she's kind of playing in the sand and she's being a little kid, making funny faces. that one, yeah. i can see where that could bother you. >> okay. just had to get that out. michelle turner, thanks. >> i'm glad.

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what are you waiting for? this is big news. could you imagine an education focused on marijuana? imagine no more because it's a reality. humboldt state university in northern california is holding interdisciplinary studies right now focusing on medical marijuana. it's being run by different professors and lecturers. medical marijuana's a hot topic now as more states allow its use and two states, as you know, they've approved the drug for recreational use. so here's a question -- would you let a first or second grader or any child use medical marijuana? some family members in oregon say yes. 7-year-old any kyla comstock has leukemia. she's a registered medical marijuana patient.

her mom gives her the drug every day. not surprisingly, there are some, including her father, who have concerns about this. after all, she's 7 years old. dr. sanjay gupta joins us with more. and we wanted to get your opinion on this. >> well, i mean, the first question a lot of people ask is, is this even safe to do. and this ends up being the crux of questions surrounding marijuana. what is hard from a purely scientific standpoint is that it's an illegal drug in the united states. so it's hard to do studies on a drug that's illegal. you often look to other countries to try and get data. and it's also -- here we're talking about a child. it makes it more difficult to do these studies in children. we don't know a lot about the safety overall. we do know -- in any kayla's case, there are 51 other children in oregon who are all registered to be able to get medical marijuana. she's not the only one. this is something that the doctors have obviously prescribed for not just her but for others. >> tell us how marijuana is administered. it's not like she's smoking a joint, right? >> right. there's all sorts of different ways. people are used to thinking of it that way.

it also can number baked goods. in t c-- it can be in an active form. thc is the active ingredient people talk about. it can give you the feeling of being high, but it's a good nausea medication, for example. of this is not anext total anymore. this has -- anecdotal anymore. this has been proven in studies back to the 1970s. people getting chemotherapy can try to prevent nausea with that. >> in mikayla's case, it did ease her pain. some have gone so far, i think she's in remission now, right? >> right. right. >> some say that the marijuana helped kind of cure her leukemia. is that possible? >> you know, if you're talking specifically about its effect on the cell, i think that's harder to say. all the other stuff, chemo is a very toxic drug. probably a lot more toxic than cannabis is. but the side effects that you get, the marijuana, pain from the cancer itself, those things can be treated to some extent with, you know, the thc the way that she was getting it.

now doctors will say are there other ways that are less toxic, more -- have a higher impact. we don't know. in her case it seems to work. in other patients who are young. we know in people who start before age 15 and keep doing it throughout their life even sporadically tend to have an impact later in life. lose about eight i.q. points on average. these are hard studies to come by. these are studies out of the netherlands. for adults who do this past adolescence, the long-term impact in terms of safety, there's not a lot really written to say that it's necessarily a problem. >> it's easy to sit back and criticize the parents in this case. criticize the mom. when you have a 7-year-old kid in terrible pain, you want to relieve their pain. >> yeah. i read the article. i've been following the story. i don't know what the relationship is between the parents and the doctors here. clearly doctors in oregon who think that this is a viable form of treatment. i'm not sure what -- where the communication breakdown is. there is even fda-approve of versions of this that can be given to adults as well as children. there are options for them.

they're doing it differently. i'm not sure why that s. but as a treatment, though, in adults, i think we're beyond the anecdotal, beyond the -- there's studies. in children it's harder to come by. are you getting more and more children on these registries. >> dr. sanjay gupta. thank you very much. >> any time. thank you. it is 45 minutes past the hour. time to check our top stories. senator john mccain, he's been meeting with a u.s. ambassador to the united nations, susan rice, about what happened in benghazi and what she said. let's listen. >> leading up to the attack on the consulate. the tragic deaths of four brave americans and whether ambassador rice was prepared or informed sufficient sufficiently in order to give the american people a correct depiction of the events that took place. it is clear that the information she gave the american people was incorrect when she said that it was a spontaneous demonstration.

>> unfortunately, our live shot is freezing for some reason. you heard john mccain begin to explain what happened in that meeting between -- okay. we've got it going again. let's listen. >> other americans who are fully aware that people don't bring mortars and rocket-propelled grenades to spontaneous demonstrations. >> senator -- >> we're going to -- >> all right. here's lindsay graham. let's listen. >> i'm more disturbed than i was before that the 16th september explanation about how four americans died in benghazi, libya, by ambassador rice i think does not do justice to the real reality at the time and in hindsight clearly was completely wrong. here's the key -- in real time it was a statement disconnected from reality. if anybody had been looking at the threats coming out of benghazi, libya, it was jump out

at you, this was -- an al qaeda storm in the making. i'm very disappointed in our intelligence community. i think they failed in many ways. but with inquiry and curiosity, i think it would be pretty clear that to explain this episode as related to a video that created a mob that turned into a riot was far afield. and at the end of the day, we're going to get to the bottom of this. we have to have a system we can trust. and if you don't know what happened, just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give eplanations and you can say -- explanations and you can say i don't want to give bad information. here's what i can tell you, the american people got bad information on 16 september. they got bad information from president obama days after. and the question is, should they have been giving the information

at all. if you can do nothing but give bad information, isn't it better to give no information at all? my belief is not only is the information bad, and i'm more convinced than ever that it was bad, it was unjustified to give the scenario as presented by ambassador rice and president obama three weeks before an election. >> senator, can you support her as secretary of state knowing that? >> i want to say that i'm more troubled today knowing, having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice because it's certainly clear from the beginning that we knew that those with ties to al qaeda were involved in the attack on the embassy. and clearly the impression that was given, the information given to the american people was

wrong. in fact, ambassador rice said today absolutely it was wrong. i don't understand the cia saying clearly that that information was wrong. and they knew by the 22nd that it was gone. yet, they have not cleared that up with the american people to date in coming forward and saying that they were wrong, including the president of the united states having parroted also, talked about the fact that this was the reaction to a video, attacks in benghazi. and what troubles me also is that -- obviously the changes made to the unclassified talking points were misleading. just to be clear, when you have a position where you're ambassador to the united nations, you go well beyond classified talking points in your daily preparation and responsibilities for that job. and that's troubling to me, as well, why she wouldn't have asked -- i'm the person that

doesn't know anything about this, i'm going on every single show. but in addition, the fact that it's not just the talking points that were unclassified but clearly it's part of her responsibility as an ambassador to the united states. she reviewed much more than that. >> senator, can you support her as secretary of state nominee? can you -- >> before anybody could make an intelligent decision about promoting someone involved in benghazi, we need to do a lot more. to this date we don't have the fbi interviews of the survivors conducted one or two days after the effect. we don't have the basic information about what was said on the night of the attack that's been shared with congress as of this date. so i remember the john bolton episode pretty well. our democratic friends felt like that john bolton didn't have the information needed to make an informed decision about ambassador bolton's qualificati qualifications, john bolton to be ambassador. and democrats dug in their heels saying we're not going to vote,

we're not going to consider this nomination until we get basic answers to our concerns. all i can tell you, that the concerns i have are greater today than they were before. we're not even close to getting the basic answers. >> senator -- >> may i -- >> all right. we're going to step away from this. as you see, those powerful gop senators were not very happy with the outcome of their meeting with ambassador susan rice. and i believe that president obama does nominate susan rice -- if he nominates susan rice to secretary of state, the nomination could be a train wreck as it stands now. coming up we'll go to the white house for reaction. dan lothian is there. [ male announcer ] considering all your mouth goes through,

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moments ago three gop lawmakers addressed the microphones, talking about a meeting they left with ambassador susan rice. they were trying to talk out what exactly happened when susan rice appeared on national television to talk about benghazi. and you may recall she said that the benghazi attack on that consulate in -- on that consulate in benghazi, libya, was the result maybe of this

anti-islam film. it turned out not to be the case. the meeting was supposed to smooth things over between ambassador rice and the senators. as you hear from senator lindsay graham, don't think much smoothing over occurred. let's listen. >> in real time, it was a statement disconnected from reality. if anybody had been looking at the threats coming out of benghazi, libya, it was jump out at you, this was a -- an al qaeda storm in the making. i'm very disappointed in our intelligence community. i think they failed in many ways. >> let's head to the white house now. dan lothian is there. if anything, dan, sounds worse. >> reporter: well, it does. and keep in mind that these were meetings that were requested by ambassador rice herself. a chance for her to sit down along with mike morrell, acting director over the cia, and lay things out as they happened, you know, back when those benghazi attacks occurred. and coming out of the meeting as

you have been playing there. there were still a lot of concerns. the white house and the president in particular has defended ambassador rice for all of her hard work. also defended the fact that the information that she gave out at the time was based on real-time information that they had gotten from the intelligence community. it later turned out not to be exactly accurate. and what you're hearing from the senators is that because that information may have been murky at the time, that she and others in the administration should have had some pause and should have said, look, we don't know what happened. we don't have good information. so we're not going to give bad information out. we're still waiting to find out if we can get any reaction from the white house to the latest development in terms of this tone from lawmakers. what we have seen over the last few days is sort of a ratcheting back of some of the harshest tones. senator mccain had been out front, talking about how he would block a nomination of ambassador rice to secretary of state. keep in mind, there has been no

nomination. sthooes top of the list to re-- she's at the top of the list to replace secretary clinton when she leaves the state department. but no nomination has been made yet. nonetheless, there has been this firestorm. there has been this harsh rhetoric. over the last few days, they pulled back a bit saying they want to listen, hear her out, hear her essentially defend herself. but after the meeting today, as you see there, they still have a lot of tough questions, carol. >> a lot of tough questions. dan lothian at the white house. i'm sure you'll continue to follow this story throughout the day. thanks, dan. and thank you for joining me today. i'm carol costello. cnn "newsroom" with ashley banfield continues after the break. while brushing misses germs in 75% of your mouth, listerine® cleans virtually your entire mouth. so take your oral health to a whole new level. listerine®... power to your mouth™. without freshly-made pasta. you could also cut corners by making it without 100% real cheddar cheese. but then...it wouldn't be stouffer's mac & cheese. just one of over 70 satisfying recipes for one

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